This is Thin Privilege

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[tw: eating disorder, depression, doctors, fat shaming]

A few weeks ago I went to my psychiatrist to get my medication refilled. They commented on my recent weight loss, stating that it was “good”. I told them that it was not good, as I had been starving myself due to being severely depressed the past month. He then said, and I quote, “That’s good. As long as you loose the weight.”

I think being fat is an earned disadvantage and that being thin confers no privilege on an individual. Much like felons have the earned disadvantage of being viewed poorly and with suspicion by society due to their past decisions. Non-felons do not have privilege over felons. The way felons are viewed is deserved.

You guys are like criminals talking about the “privilege” that non-criminals enjoy.

On a case by case basis a felon might redeem themselves in the eyes of those they know, and prove through their personality and ethic that they have shunned their old ways and are intent on improving themselves, but to fault society for viewing felons in a bad light is in error. In the same way a fat person might show that they really do eat a healthy amount and exercise enough and yet can’t seem to lose weight but are making an effort, thus redeeming themselves in the eyes of those around them, but when seeing a random fat person it is not wrong to judge them a social delinquents or deviants.

To the point, as a general rule I think it is correct to admonish and castigate fat-ness as being an indicator that a person makes unhealthy lifestyle choices which harm themselves and larger society, and that obesity should be discouraged and fought. I believe your premise, that thin people enjoy some unearned advantage that fat people do not, is false. The truth is fat people are at an earned disadvantage and thin people are just treated normally.

What say you guys?

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Moderator response:

Are you actually comparing fat people to criminals, and being fat as a behavior along the lines of committing a crime that necessitates redemption?

Proof in point that the War on Fatness is a moral panic (or really, a moral crusade) and has nothing whatsoever to do with concern over a person’s health. 

Thanks for stating the case of the anti-fat moral crusaders so clearly. I mean, us fat folks suspected that y’all just thought we were inferior, evil, ignorant, etc all along, but it’s great to get such straight-up confirmation without concern-based smoke-blowing.

Note that’s unnecessary for me to argue with you point-by-point if I reject your premise, i.e., that fatness is immoral or in anyway comparable to committing a crime. I don’t, ergo, fuck you and your disgusting worldview.

-ATL

(TW sexual harassment)

Thin privilege is not being regularly sexually harassed throughout adolescence.

At my middle school, it was socially acceptable by students and staff alike for the school bullies to “scoop” the DMAB fat kids. In other words, you sneak up behind the person, cup their boob in your hand, and flick it up so it bounces and jiggles, to the amusement of everyone but your victim.

I was one of those victims; my breasts have always been the part of my body I’m the most insecure about, and I only recently realised that this era of terror contributed to that enormously - especially given my boundaries and gender identity today.

It was sexual harassment, and it could be done in front of staff and faculty without any recourse. I’m sure it still goes on at that godforsaken school today.

Thin privilege is being able to go to an amusement park and know that you’ll fit on every ride.

I live close to Six Flags and like to ride roller coasters. However, due to being a size 22, the bars don’t come down enough for me to be cleared to ride. What’s even worse, is that unlike other parks I’ve been to, there’s only one coaster that has a test seat. So I’m tempting chance every time I get in line.

I fit on the tamer coasters that don’t have much more than ups and downs, but it’s a tight fit. I’ve actually lost 30 pounds since last summer and I had to walk of shame off of a coaster.

Just a test seat for the rides would be enough- at other parks they make it look like a photo op place too so it doesn’t seem like it’s the fat person test seat specifically.

Really?!

TW: eating disorders, fat shaming kids

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/30/petition-make-plus-size-princesses-in-disney-movies_n_4695664.html

Avoid the comments there’s a lot of fat shaming there.

Adults are so convinced fat shaming benefits kids and makes them healthy now, I’ve had to show them an image of a child with Anorexia for them to realize the damage they’re causing. How bad does this have to get before people realize fat shaming children destroys childhoods, and can end lives? I just don’t understand adults demanding their right to hurt children, this is what the obesity hysteria has wrought. How many children must suffer until things change?

I also want to state despite Huffpo’s attempts to appear supporting body positivity, their allowing of hate towards fat people in the comments of their articles show they care only about being popular, no matter how unethical they have to be.

tw: weight loss talk

I joined a gym in October.  The membership I agreed to included a few appointments with a trainer/”fitness coach”, the first of which involved the trainer taking measurements and weight.  When writing down my weight my trainer said, “We don’t ever want to see this number again.”

Months later, my trainer spotted me and reminded me to make an appointment for a progress review.  I freaked out.  I stepped on the scale in the locker room three times in a row and saw a number higher than the one from the initial appointment. I felt disappointed, ashamed.  My mind told me I couldn’t make an appointment for a progress review having made the exact opposite of “progress”.  I stopped going.

I expressed my anxiety to a friend who is also outside of the thin privilege realm and received the reply, “well as long as you don’t break (number).”

Trigger Warning: Eating Disorder

(Hello.

I decided to submit my story, the story of a thin person, because I think it shows that fat doesn’t equal unhealthy a thin doesn’t equal healthy. The fact that doctors think this way harms both, fat and thin people, though the first group obviously suffers way more from it as all the stories published here prove. I’m aware that this isn’t a space for thin people so it’s not a problem for me if you don’t publish this. If you decide to do so feel free to adjust the language because I’m not a native speaker and haven’t written such a long text in English since school. Also, I’ve used the word “fat” because you use it on your blog but I’m not sure if it is ok for me as a thin person to do so. If you think it isn’t, please change it to “people of size” or whatever term you prefer.)

I’ve always been thin weighting between 100 – 129 lbs while being 5.4 ft tall. The reason my weight shifted around 29 lbs was a severe eating disorder. In my teens I would loose 20 lbs through starving and that gain all the weight back through binge eating and bulimia. Luckily, as I’ve reached my twenties I’ve overcome this harmful behavior. So currently I weight in at 118 lbs and appear as a “healthy”, thin woman by the standards of society. However during the last two years I noticed that I get tired very easily. Also, I sometimes get very thirsty for no apparent reason and I lost 6 lbs. The weightloss really scared me because I never ever have lost weight without intention. What worried me most was that I sometimes had a very blurry view in the afternoon and I started to panic that I would loose my eyes sight.

I went to several doctors with those symptoms. Most of them told me that my eyes were fine and that I don’t need glasses. The tiredness and thirst was always explained by a lack of iron and vitamin b12 which would be typical for women of my size. The weightloss wasn’t of interest for any of them and that I sometimes felt depressed and was suffering from fatigue was disposed as “the typical state of women with PMS”. Let me point out that calling fatigue a natural state of women is highly problematic but that’s another issue…

After 2 years of being told that I was fine and maybe should eat a little more, after swallowing hundreds of iron pills that caused my stomach to ache and getting lots of vitamin b 12 injections, I finally found a doctor who told me what was wrong with me:

I suffer from diabetes, type 2.

All those months could have been used to tackle the symptoms. Instead they got worse as I was constantly eating sugary foods and was even advised by the doctors to do so. Obviously, as a skinny person I couldn’t have had diabetes because diabetes is a disease that only affects fat people…

(for anyone wondering: the diabetes probably was caused by my binge eating disorder/bulemia which didn’t cause me to gain weight but still fucked up my blood sugar levels)

(Sorry this is so long but I think it’s important)
I never noticed the lack of representation for bigger girls in music until now. And it’s annoying. I have never seen a chubby girl in a music video. Not even in the background.

Not only is it annoying, but it’s unrealistic. The average music video usually involves a party of some sort. At no party in real life would everyone have the same body type. Im probably not the first person to say this and maybe it’s petty/stupid but I feel I have to say it.

Why is it that the only desirable girl in a music video has to be stick thin? Isn’t it possible that a guy could have a crush on/be chasing after a girl who’s not exactly societies version of “hot.” I wouldn’t say I’m huge but I’m definitely on the chubbier side.

It’s almost like no one would even consider that a guy would be singing about a girl whose bigger. The point is that when the people who make these music videos do this, it’s like they’re saying you can’t be desirable and also chubby/fat/etc.

I’m in no way trying to insult skinny people. Skinny is beautiful and just because a guy finds skinny girls attractive doesn’t mean they’re a dick. I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that fat can be just as beautiful and it’s also possible for a technically hot guy to find a bigger girl attractive and I just wish pop culture would address/represent that a little bit more.

Valentine’s Day.

It’s a really shitty, inherently exclusive holiday.  No one likes being excluded, teenagers in the throes of puberty least of all.  I remember I had to mentally prepare myself (more than I usually had to at any rate) to face school that day, prepare myself to smile stoically as thin, popular, pretty people were showered with candygrams, carnations, and attention, as they compared how many flowers they got, as they ate their candy bars and complained to me that they didn’t get more.  Please note they were complaining to a girl who never received one goddamn candygram or carnation throughout all four years of high school.

Was it because I was fat?  Is that why I was always excluded, why I always hated Valentine’s Day?  I’m not in high school anymore, and I don’t know.  And I wish I could say I didn’t care and toss it over my shoulder like the mature adult I am, but I can’t.  I bought myself flowers and ate some of those powdery heart candies that everyone hates (but I love them, and you should too, they are sugary in the best way), to console myself and make me feel like I’m amazing and totally not lonely and miserable.  

So if you are also struggling with feelings of loneliness and comparing your Valentine’s exploits (or lack thereof) to some loved-by-society thin person’s, hey, it’s okay.  I have done that, far, far more than I care to admit outside the internet.  But I think you’re cooler than that thin person.  You’re reading TITP, I’m willing to bet you are way hotter, more compassionate, more logical, and at least 3.5 times sexier than this thin random ass person.  God you’re awesome.  Will you be my Valentine?

Thin Privilege is not being labeled as an unfit mother

Thin privilege is not being labeled a bad mother because you are fat.
I’m fat so that automatically means my children are at risk for obesity.
I know what it’s like to grow up fat. I know what it’s like to be teased constantly and to never be able to shop at regular stores. I know what it’s like to not be wanted because I’m fat. I know what it feels like to be labeled lazy, greedy and ugly because I am fat. Do I want that for my children? Absolutely not.

Thin privilege is not having someone hope that my children get taken away because I look like an unfit mother, because I am fat.

Thin privilege is not having your family assume your bad eating habits will rub off on your children, when you are trying to eat better because of them.

We all know that being overweight can and usually just isn’t healthy.
That isn’t the point we are trying to make.
The fact is, fat, skinny, black, white, yellow, brown, gay, lesbian, trans or otherwise, we are all human beings capable of being loved and giving love. Even the biggest douchebag you can think of is deserving of love. If someone so hated can be loved by someone else, why can’t fat people be loved?

If I want to be fat and I am happy and I have people that love me, then what the hell is it to you? 

I’m submitting this here because I’ve seen this both on personal blogs on my dash and through you guys today and you have a wider readership than I do.

Fun Fact of the Day: Unless you are either stalking them, or they are reporting back to you every second of the day, you have no idea what any person other than yourself is doing with their time or how they get through the day.  Therefore, you have no business making assumptions about how they eat, how they exercise, or why they don’t exercise.

Bonus Fun Fact: Unless you have an actual PhD to your name, you have no business complaining about non-doctors giving out solicited medical advice while, in the same breath, giving out unsolicited medical advice.

The thing about bodily autonomy is that no one gets a say in what any one else can or cannot, is or isn’t doing with their own body.

The thing about personal responsibility is that it’s personal and that sole persongets to decide what they want and can be responsible for in their own life and with their own body.

And unless you’re going to start complaining about your tax money going towards the fire department when you’ve never needed their services and don’t participate in behaviors that would make you more likely to need their services, then let’s just skip over the “BUT MY TAX DOLLARS” argument.

[tw: dieting, weight loss, eating disorders, “thinspiration”, healthism]

This article [https://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/blogs/icymi/-thinspiration—backlash—well-deserved-or-political-correctness-gone-too-far-130047278.html] was on the front of my homepage today:

What is more, Richman’s main critic, a woman called Amber Sarah, has publically labelled herself “a fat activist.”

While she didn’t deserve to be called any names, we’re not convinced that the body image she advocates is any healthier than the one she is attacking.

Shaming someone for their use of the “thinspiration” hashtag, while lauding physiques that are obese by medical standards, doesn’t seem entirely logical.

Thin privilege is dismissing and demonising Fat Activism as “illogical, “unhealthy body image” and “attacking” and “shaming” of thin bodies in a single throw-away paragraph in an article promoting a healthist agenda.

Thin privilege is not having men start conversations with you for the sole purpose of attempting to use you for their own sexual gratification (regardless of whether or not you want it), and then calling you fat when you refuse to participate.

[12:47 AM] chatwithu4evr: If you had a son and caught him looking at nude pics - take web away? ignore?
[12:47 AM] h———-: you’ve asked me this question literally dozens of times over the course of the previous six months.
[12:47 AM] h———-: i’m not sure what part of “I’M NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU”
[12:47 AM] h———-: isn’t getting through to you.
[12:49 AM] chatwithu4evr: its ok u r kinda fat anyway
[12:49 AM] chatwithu4evr: haha fat cunt
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