This is Thin Privilege

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so i understand all the abuse fat/obese people go through, but why call this blog "this is thin privilege" instead of something like "this is fat abuse"? (not that exactly, that sounds really stupid.) the stuff written here isn't about privilege, its about how society treats fat people. its not like white privilege or male privilege or something like that. i just think a lot of the hate and abuse this blog receives would stop if it weren't about "thin privilege", but fat hate.

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rhayae

[Continued - ok ignore that last ask maybe, i read the faq. but still, it aint privilege. its advantage. they’re not the same thing :/]

You just defined privilege. Privileges are “unearned advantages.” Regardless of why someone is thin society gives them unearned advantages due to the discrimination and hatred fat people experience. Naming the blog this is thin privilege acknowledges those advantages and doesn’t allow for thin people to deny how they benefit from fat hatred. Telling us to call the blog “this is fat abuse” is telling us to stop emphasizing how thin people are also impacted by fat hatred and directly benefit from it.

We’re not sweeping this under the rug anymore or letting thin people think they can ignore what we go through.

-FBP

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littlenerdytsuki:

I like how some people try to hide their fat phobia by telling fat people that it’s unhealthy and we should lose weight because we could die and they are just worried about us.

That’s almost like one of them Christian folk lecturing a homosexual for being gay, telling them that if they don’t get straight, they’re gonna go to hell…OH BUT THEY ARE JUST WORRIED ABOUT OUR SOULS!

Just stop. For one, you don’t even know us. For two, it’s our body, not yours. If we wanna work out and lose weight then we will. If we would rather sit on the couch at night and eat a tub of ice cream, we will do that too. It’s none of your business what we do with our bodies or how we look.

PLEASE STOP. Some of us ARE working to lose weight because WE want to. Others like being the way they are. Stop fat shaming. Stop the fat hating. Leave us alone.

Really?!

TW: eating disorders, fat shaming kids

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/30/petition-make-plus-size-princesses-in-disney-movies_n_4695664.html

Avoid the comments there’s a lot of fat shaming there.

Adults are so convinced fat shaming benefits kids and makes them healthy now, I’ve had to show them an image of a child with Anorexia for them to realize the damage they’re causing. How bad does this have to get before people realize fat shaming children destroys childhoods, and can end lives? I just don’t understand adults demanding their right to hurt children, this is what the obesity hysteria has wrought. How many children must suffer until things change?

I also want to state despite Huffpo’s attempts to appear supporting body positivity, their allowing of hate towards fat people in the comments of their articles show they care only about being popular, no matter how unethical they have to be.

alanaisreading:

thisisthinprivilege:

vikingspacebees:

thisisthinprivilege:

everybodygetssolow:

homo-sweet-homo:

Thin privilege is when the doctor does not assume you are diabetic or have high-blood pressure every time you’re sick.

That isn’t thin privilege… Fatter people are more prone to having these sorts of health problems, so therefore the doctor would need to rule these things out as possible reasons for illness.

This comment is thin privilege.

The problem isn’t that doctors look at an overweight patient and see those conditions as a possibility, the problem is that they act as though those are the only possibilities. They also often see them as the most likely or only possibilities even if the symptoms don’t add up.

Yyyyyyyup.

My family has super pale skin.  My brother and his wife have both had skin cancer, and neither of them ever purposely goes tanning.

Now, imagine you are as pale as my family.  You go to the doctor, and the doctor automatically assumes you have skin cancer, and no matter what symptoms you present with, the first thing they do is biopsy every mole and freckle on your body.  And not just every once in a while, but every single time you go in.  Sore throat?  Skin biopsy. Headaches?  Skin biopsy.  Once in a while, they will catch actual cancers, but most of the time they’re just wasting everyone’s time.

That’s what it’s like to go to the doctor when you’re fat.  No matter what your actual symptoms are, they start with assumptions based on what you look like.

agreekdoctor:

loniemc:

thisisthinprivilege:

vikingspacebees:

thisisthinprivilege:

everybodygetssolow:

homo-sweet-homo:

Thin privilege is when the doctor does not assume you are diabetic or have high-blood pressure every time you’re sick.

That isn’t thin privilege… Fatter people are more prone to having these sorts of health problems, so therefore the doctor would need to rule these things out as possible reasons for illness.

This comment is thin privilege.

The problem isn’t that doctors look at an overweight patient and see those conditions as a possibility, the problem is that they act as though those are the only possibilities. They also often see them as the most likely or only possibilities even if the symptoms don’t add up.

Yyyyyyyup.

I went to a doctor three weeks ago, knowing the problem was my thyroid. She said it probably wasn’t and hinted that I probably have diabetes. She ran a full battery of tests. Guess what was the only thing out of whack? My thyroid. My blood sugar wasn’t even in the “pre-diabetic” range.

That is the third doctor I’ve had this experience with THIS SUMMER. One doctor just knew it could not be my thyroid and hinted that the problems would go away if I lost weight (the one who gave me too much thyroid med and put me in the hospital with afib because of it — couldn’t have me gaining weight, you know). One thought I was depressed (she decided this after looking at me and asking me one question about my sleep habits) and tried to put me on anti-depressants within 5 minutes of meeting me.

I had to pay extra for all those tests. Doctors on my insurance would not listen to me, didn’t actually address the problem — and I’m out the money for the copays. To fix the problem, I actually had to go pay out of my pocket for a doctor who is off my insurance. I’m lucky since I have good insurance and can pay this stuff, though it does drain my finances. Someone without the resources would have just been out of luck!

The entire time I was running around trying to get help, I was barely functioning. I hardly had enough energy to do my job — let alone have a life outside of it.

The assumption that we must have diseases associated with fat cost us time, money, and a great deal of frustration and heart-ache. Don’t tell me this habit is helpful or even harmless!

One of the things I was taught in medical school was, if you listen to a patient long enough, they will tell you what their problem is. Experience has shown me that it’s true.

So, why don’t doctors listen when their patient is fat? Are they afraid they’re going to be proven wrong?

Never trust a doctor who is afraid to be wrong. Nobody is perfect.

loniemc:

thisisthinprivilege:

vikingspacebees:

thisisthinprivilege:

everybodygetssolow:

homo-sweet-homo:

Thin privilege is when the doctor does not assume you are diabetic or have high-blood pressure every time you’re sick.

That isn’t thin privilege… Fatter people are more prone to having these sorts of health problems, so therefore the doctor would need to rule these things out as possible reasons for illness.

This comment is thin privilege.

The problem isn’t that doctors look at an overweight patient and see those conditions as a possibility, the problem is that they act as though those are the only possibilities. They also often see them as the most likely or only possibilities even if the symptoms don’t add up.

Yyyyyyyup.

I went to a doctor three weeks ago, knowing the problem was my thyroid. She said it probably wasn’t and hinted that I probably have diabetes. She ran a full battery of tests. Guess what was the only thing out of whack? My thyroid. My blood sugar wasn’t even in the “pre-diabetic” range.

That is the third doctor I’ve had this experience with THIS SUMMER. One doctor just knew it could not be my thyroid and hinted that the problems would go away if I lost weight (the one who gave me too much thyroid med and put me in the hospital with afib because of it — couldn’t have me gaining weight, you know). One thought I was depressed (she decided this after looking at me and asking me one question about my sleep habits) and tried to put me on anti-depressants within 5 minutes of meeting me.

I had to pay extra for all those tests. Doctors on my insurance would not listen to me, didn’t actually address the problem — and I’m out the money for the copays. To fix the problem, I actually had to go pay out of my pocket for a doctor who is off my insurance. I’m lucky since I have good insurance and can pay this stuff, though it does drain my finances. Someone without the resources would have just been out of luck!

The entire time I was running around trying to get help, I was barely functioning. I hardly had enough energy to do my job — let alone have a life outside of it.

The assumption that we must have diseases associated with fat cost us time, money, and a great deal of frustration and heart-ache. Don’t tell me this habit is helpful or even harmless!

tw: weight loss talk

I joined a gym in October.  The membership I agreed to included a few appointments with a trainer/”fitness coach”, the first of which involved the trainer taking measurements and weight.  When writing down my weight my trainer said, “We don’t ever want to see this number again.”

Months later, my trainer spotted me and reminded me to make an appointment for a progress review.  I freaked out.  I stepped on the scale in the locker room three times in a row and saw a number higher than the one from the initial appointment. I felt disappointed, ashamed.  My mind told me I couldn’t make an appointment for a progress review having made the exact opposite of “progress”.  I stopped going.

I expressed my anxiety to a friend who is also outside of the thin privilege realm and received the reply, “well as long as you don’t break (number).”

ginger-coquine:

vikingspacebees:

thisisthinprivilege:

everybodygetssolow:

homo-sweet-homo:

Thin privilege is when the doctor does not assume you are diabetic or have high-blood pressure every time you’re sick.

That isn’t thin privilege… Fatter people are more prone to having these…

"Oh, you’re depressed? You have terrible panic attacks 4 days out of the week? You’ve been displaying violent behaviors? Have you tried losing weight? It would really help with your mood!"

- legit what I’ve been told by Doctors until they had to be sent to an institution for treatment.

This is thin privilege.

Have you considered that being extremely overweight and underweight is detrimental to your health? If someone refuses to change their lifestile and be healthy I think we have an obligation to help them, don't you?

Asked by
officialsenatorrandpaul

madgastronomer:

runninglurking:

shitthinpeoplesay:

runninglurking:

thisisthinprivilege:

midwestmondays:

shitthinpeoplesay:

Have you considered that you are an ignorant fucking jackass, that other people’s health is their business and not yours, and that actually, no, fat is not automatically unhealthy? FUCK OFF, SHIT HEAD.

Okay but depending on how you define it, fat could automatically mean unhealthy. Are you saying that fat means they have a “bigger appearance”, in which case your statement would be correct? Or fat as in they are actually overweight, which is bad for you and can lead to many health problems?

Shorter thin person: No, really, fat MUST BE UNHEALTHY ALWAYS. BECAUSE I SAY SO.

No, you fucking shithead, it is not. Go do some reading on “health at every size,” there’s a huge amount of hard science on this, you ignorant, condescending asshole. Also, no one else’s health is any of your fucking business. 

You’re wrong. Just sit there in your wrongness, and be wrong.

Have you considered actually reading officialsenatorrandpaul ‘s post? Weight extremes, high and low, are unhealthy. Human organs cannot function correctly under extreme amounts of fat, and human organs cannot function with an extreme lack of fat. Denying this is denying human biology. And helping people who are unhealthy, whether they’re far too heavy or far too thin should be something important for anyone who cares about their well-being.

Have you considered actually reading anything about health at every size, as I mentioned?

GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU IGNORANT SHIT.

Learn to control yourself and speak respectfully, you sound 13. Which you probably are, since you know nothing about homeostasis in the human body. Now, tell me that a 1,100 pound man who has not left his bed for over 3 years, is suffering from bedsores, diabetes and heart disease is healthy. He can’t use the bathroom himself, he can’t feed himself, he can’t dress himself. He could die any day from heart failure. Tell me how healthy he is and what a great life he has. Now picture a woman, 64 inches tall and 80 pounds. Her hair is falling out, she can’t walk up 5 stairs without nearly fainting, and her heart rate has fallen to the point where any day she may never wake up from sleep. Tell me she’s healthy. Oh wait, they’re not. Weight is an indicator of health, and while overweight and underweight people can be healthy, morbidly obese and anorexic people are not. Go to school, take an online health class meant for your 7th grade brain, and learn.

So, the first thing you’re trying here is called the tone argument, and it is not a valid argument. The fact that I cuss does not invalidate anything else I fucking say, but pretending that it does makes you look pretty nasty. It’s a common tactic for privileged shits like you when talking to less privileged people who dare to stand up for ourselves, and they complain about our tone no matter how fucking nice we are, so no, I won’t change how I speak just because it offends you. I want to offend you. You are being offensive.

Your hypothetical straw people here prove absolutely fucking nothing. It is perfectly possible to be either very underweight or very overweight (“morbidly obese,” by the way, is an outdated medical term, and insulting as fuck) and still be healthy. I’m “morbidly obese,” not even pre-diabetic, have slightly low blood pressure, and my doctor is mostly concerned about my asthma — something that my weight does not affect in slightest, although ignorant, bigoted fucks like you have a tendency to think it does.

If someone IS unhealthy and fat or thin, then their weight may not have any relationship to their health, or may be the cause of their weight. But no, you want to ignore actual fucking facts so you can prop up your argument with totally nonexistent straw people, because what you think is clearly more fucking important than the lived reality of fat people, or the scientific evidence.

No, I am not going to go dig any up for you. There’s a ton out there if you fucking bother to look. This Is Thin Privileged has linked to many many studies in the past, or you can, as I already fucking said, go google “healthy at every size”.

I sound young and uneducated? Shithead, I am 36 years old, and I have put three years into reading up on this shit. Not to mention the fact that you cannot possibly know more about my body than I do, no matter what you might like to think, from your superior vantage point of pure, unadulterated ignorance.

FUCK OFF, AND GO EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE SPEWING PURE BULLSHIT.

Have you considered that being extremely overweight and underweight is detrimental to your health? If someone refuses to change their lifestile and be healthy I think we have an obligation to help them, don't you?

Asked by
officialsenatorrandpaul

midwestmondays:

shitthinpeoplesay:

Have you considered that you are an ignorant fucking jackass, that other people’s health is their business and not yours, and that actually, no, fat is not automatically unhealthy? FUCK OFF, SHIT HEAD.

Okay but depending on how you define it, fat could automatically mean unhealthy. Are you saying that fat means they have a “bigger appearance”, in which case your statement would be correct? Or fat as in they are actually overweight, which is bad for you and can lead to many health problems?

Shorter thin person: No, really, fat MUST BE UNHEALTHY ALWAYS. BECAUSE I SAY SO.

No, you fucking shithead, it is not. Go do some reading on “health at every size,” there’s a huge amount of hard science on this, you ignorant, condescending asshole. Also, no one else’s health is any of your fucking business. 

You’re wrong. Just sit there in your wrongness, and be wrong.

vikingspacebees:

thisisthinprivilege:

everybodygetssolow:

homo-sweet-homo:

Thin privilege is when the doctor does not assume you are diabetic or have high-blood pressure every time you’re sick.

That isn’t thin privilege… Fatter people are more prone to having these sorts of health problems, so therefore the doctor would need to rule these things out as possible reasons for illness.

This comment is thin privilege.

The problem isn’t that doctors look at an overweight patient and see those conditions as a possibility, the problem is that they act as though those are the only possibilities. They also often see them as the most likely or only possibilities even if the symptoms don’t add up.

Yyyyyyyup.

Have you considered that being extremely overweight and underweight is detrimental to your health? If someone refuses to change their lifestile and be healthy I think we have an obligation to help them, don't you?

Asked by
officialsenatorrandpaul

shitthinpeoplesay:

Have you considered that you are an ignorant fucking jackass, that other people’s health is their business and not yours, and that actually, no, fat is not automatically unhealthy? FUCK OFF, SHIT HEAD.

Bittman is then quoted:

Say what you will about the Chinese, but they know how to make wholesale changes, and sometimes those changes are inarguably for the good….

Because things are moving so fast in China, and because that country can learn from the example of the United States and others, perhaps it can pull off a public-health leapfrog and avoid the West’s fate of a rapid and tragic increase in obesity levels and the diseases with which they’re associated.

And there’s hope: The authors [of an editorial in The Lancet] wrote that Li Bin, China’s new minister of health and family planning, “has the political will, together with the support of international colleagues, to meet the urgent challenge” of these noncommunicable diseases and the problems they pose for China’s future.

Preserving the freedom to do what you will with your own body is fundamental to fighting fat and other body-related discrimination. An official thinking it’s okay to make you into his little public health experiment is the furthest thing from okay. 

-ATL